Diverse panelists speaking at a leadership advice event with an attentive audience

A reflection on belief, ego, and the mirror we all avoid looking into

Let me be upfront: I have no issue with atheists or unbelievers. I genuinely see their point much of the time. Many atheists are more equipped with scripture and theology than the average churchgoer, and their arguments are often well constructed. On top of that, many have been deeply wounded by the church and the Christian community. When an institution that claims to represent love becomes a source of harm, why would anyone want anything to do with it?

I get it.

But the more I listen to atheist voices, the more I notice a pattern that is hard to ignore. Many of them are starting to mirror the very people they criticize.

When Doubt Becomes Its Own Dogma

I recently listened to a panel discussion on how to live and work without God. I was not there to be convinced. I was there to listen, to understand, and to genuinely engage with a perspective different from my own.

What I heard surprised me.

The more the panelists reasoned, debated, and made their case, the more familiar it all sounded. The tone, the certainty, the in-group language. It reminded me of fundamentalism. They evangelized just as passionately for their worldview as any preacher I have ever heard, and there was very little room for humility or empathy toward those who see things differently.

That is worth sitting with.

The Expert Problem

One common thread in atheist and skeptic communities is the heavy reliance on scientists, psychologists, and philosophers as ultimate authorities. And listen, there is nothing wrong with learning from experts. Many are genuinely brilliant and worth listening to.

But here is the thing: the scientists, psychologists, and philosophers being quoted are just as human and just as flawed as the Christians being criticized. Freud, for example, is still widely cited despite a legacy that historians and modern psychologists have largely dismantled. As someone who loves history, particularly women’s history, I can tell you that we have a long habit of celebrating men whose brilliance came packaged with serious harm.

If the standard is moral consistency and intellectual integrity, the hall of great thinkers does not exactly have a spotless record either.

Moral Superiority Is Not a Christian Exclusive

Christians are often called out, fairly, for being self-righteous and pharisaical. But atheists and unbelievers can fall into the exact same trap. There is a version of secular thinking that positions itself as the final word on justice, reason, and ethics, as if the person holding the view has never been wrong, never caused harm, and never acted out of their own bias.

That is not reason. That is a different kind of religion.

On earth, there is no perfect justice. That is actually one of the reasons people shake their fist at God. He is either too lenient on the wrong people or too hard on the right ones. They approach scripture with moral certainty and find passages that are genuinely troubling. And to be fair, those passages exist. That tension is real and worth honest conversation.

But what frustrates me is not that atheists reject God. People have the right to believe what they believe. What frustrates me is the tendency to replace one set of dogma with another, one that conveniently reflects their own character, judgment, and reasoning, and then call it enlightenment.

It is a little like a diet bar company telling you that candy is terrible for your health, and then producing a bar loaded with alternative sweeteners and processed ingredients that cause different but equally real damage. You swapped the packaging. The harm is still there.

The Mirror We All Need

The point of this post is not to bash anyone. It is to say that ego is not a Christian problem or an atheist problem. It is a human problem. The moment any of us, regardless of belief, start acting as though we are the final authority on truth, justice, and how everyone else should live, we have stopped seeking and started performing.

Humility is not a sign of weakness in your worldview. It is a sign that you are still actually looking for truth rather than just defending your version of it.

Whatever you believe, the question worth asking is: am I genuinely open to being wrong? Or have I just found a more sophisticated way to be certain?


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9 responses to “Are Atheists and Christians More Alike Than They Think?”

  1. clubschadenfreude Avatar

    Laura, you have quite a few issues with atheists. Christians have been trying to accuse atheists of being “fundamentalist” for some time now, getting terribly offended when we read your bible and don’t try to whitewash it. You demand “humility” and “empathy” for yourself and your beliefs and don’t offer it to others. You are sure that your version of christianity is the one and only “truth”. You insist that we must accept your baseless claims just to make you feel better and accuse anyone who doesn’t of being egotistic. You literally have no evidence for your religion’s claims, nor can a single christian show that their version is better than the rest. Humility is what you demand when you have nothing to support your claims and yet you require them to be accepted equally with things that do have evidence. You demand empathy, when you believe that anyone who dares not agree with you deserves eternal torture. “If the standard is moral consistency and intellectual integrity, the hall of great thinkers does not exactly have a spotless record either.”Curious how your religion fails at this too. “What frustrates me is the tendency to replace one set of dogma with another, one that conveniently reflects their own character, judgment, and reasoning, and then call it enlightenment.”What seems to frustrate you is that we don’t accept your claims without consideration. Your religion reflects nothing but your own character, judgement, and reasoning, and you claim that some magical being is the source of what you simply have made up on your own. “how to lose your religion while keeping your Jesus”This is also a typical christian claim, insisting that only their version is the right one.

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    1. Laura Farhy Avatar
      Laura Farhy

      Hey… I’m afraid your name is not listed. So, I shall call you a friend.

      Before I start my reply, I want to ask: are you commenting because you seek to understand me or because you seek to fight and assert your point of view? I have often found that seeking to understand is a more productive conversation than a fight. So I am going to assume you intend to understand me, which is why I addressed you as a friend and why I am writing a response.

      I do not seek to “evangelize” you.

      You seem to be making assessments and statements about me because I am a type of “Christian.” However, I fear you are not just “fighting” only me, but all the versions of Christians you have known before me. I can’t answer for them, so I shall answer for myself.

      I started this site because I am a deconstructed Christian. The “baseless claims” and “no evidence for your religion’s claims” are part of the reason I deconstructed in the first place. When I talk about humility and empathy, I advocate for those things because the idea of Jesus advocates for those things, as do humanists. I don’t advocate for hubris in my beliefs, in religion, or in my personal life. Because at the end of the day, I don’t think anyone really can know. I prefer to stay curious rather than assume I have all the answers.

      To your next point: “Humility is what you demand when you have nothing to support your claims …You demand empathy, when you believe that anyone who dares not agree with you deserves eternal torture.”

      Here’s where I believe that you are fighting other people, not me. Because never have I said on this post, on this page, on my podcast, YouTube, or social media that I believe anyone who does not agree with me “deserves eternal torture.” I, myself, don’t even know how to catalog hell in my understanding of things… still trying to figure that out.

      ‘If the standard is moral consistency and intellectual integrity, the hall of great thinkers does not exactly have a spotless record either.’ Curious how your religion fails at this too.” Again, you group me with people you think I am instead of seeing what I really stand for. Religion and religious figures absolutely fail at that, which is why I titled this post “Are Christians and atheists more alike than they think?” They are two sides of the same coin. Once more, the reason I deconstructed.

      You claim I am a part of a religion because I state “lose your religion and keep your Jesus” as if it is an anthem for another type of religion; However, this site is neither dedicated to nor does it affirm any religion or religious dogma. Just the values of Jesus.

      As stated above, I am for the ideas of Jesus. Not the systems of religion. Which is why I write what I write and do what I do. You don’t have to agree, like, or join. You are free to think what you want to think. I wish you the best on your journey.

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      1. clubschadenfreude Avatar

        You can visit my blog and learn about me. You can call me Vel. I’m always somewhat bemused when someone doesn’t do a little research.

        I am commenting on your false claims and setting them aright. I unfortunately understand you far too well since you are a common type of Christian. You want your claims to not be questioned, and do your best to claim that anyone who dares question you isn’t being humble. You are ever so sure that only you are right, and you try to hide that with your attempts to claim the moral high ground by being supposedly so understanding.

        For your claims of being so understanding and empathic, all you have is judgment and strawmen to attack. You insist that scientists are flawed humans and shouldn’t be considered authorities. Yet, you claim your religion is the only right one. You assume you have some divine knowledge and have the one and only authority to follow. What history has shown is that Christianity and Christians have no “moral consistency” or “intellectual integrity”. They cannot agree on which version is the right one nor can they agree on what morals their god wants.

        You claim to have that perfect justice, and it is no where to be found. It isn’t on earth and curiously enough, there is no heaven to be seen. I have moral certainty in my morals, which are indeed subjective. And yes, I judge your religion with those. Christians have dogma, though they can’t agree what is the right set. Christians have nothing but their own reasoning, character and judgement, just like all humans. Their claims of something more are baseless.

        There is no reason to be humble about not believing in gods if the theists has no evidence for their claims.

        You may consider anyone showing how you are wrong as a “fight”. I find this is how one understands reality. I am showing how *you* fail in your claims.

        You do seek to evangelize me and everyone else who isn’t already in the religion. You try to claim we are less than you since we aren’t blindly accepting your claims without question. Christians do love to go on about pride, and how awful it is, and they also go on about humility when they don’t want to be questioned.

        There are many many versions of Christian. You claim you are a “deconstructed Christian” which means no more than you are a Christian who has made up their own version of the religion. This is not unusual at all, with the screwtape letters mentioning the many churches of one. You invent a Jesus in your image since the jesus in the bible is not a consistent character.

        Christians cannot agree on which jesus is the right one. Is Jesus this God? If so, then this jesus has no problem with slavery, genocide and killing people for things they didn’t do. Is this jesus the human who says to take care of the sick and the poor? Is this jesus the king who says to bring everyone who doesn’t want him as king before him and slaughter them? Is this jesus the being who slaughters all non-christians in Revelation, and then frees satan to corrupt the Christians who are left?
        I find that Christians do believe that they have all of the answers, or they wouldn’t be Christians. They would be agnostics.
        I see that I am correct that you have invented your own Christianity like many chrisians when you are aghast that I accuse you of saying people deserve eternal torture. You have decided to ignore those parts of the bible you do not like. You plead ignorance, when your bible is quite clear on the doctrine of hell. You claim to be some kind of teacher and have the answers for people, but then you claim you are still figuring things out? I find that hard to believe.

        You claim other christians have false teachings, so you by simple definition believe yours are the truth. You are part of a religion. Many Christians claim they have a “relationship” not a religion and the reason for that claim is that their own actions have made the term religion less than flattering. You claim to know the values of jesus, and as I have shown, you only know the values you have assigned to jesus, and have ignored the ones you don’t like.
        Your version may be better than other versions. However, it is no more true. When you claim atheists are as “bad” as christians, I find that to be a false claim made by a Christian who needs a way to claim her version is better on our backs.

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    A brief overview interpretive analysis of ancient Jewish history. Based upon the כלל: T’NaCH and Talmudic common law command mussar neither teaches history.

    The Talmud describes the P’rushim as the guardians of the Oral Traditions passed down to the Tannaim as a masoret. For example: Rabbi Akiva’s פרדס inductive logic reason called a “kabbalah”. The דאורייתא מידות: אל רחום חנון etc define the weft threads of Aggada in the Talmud – which employ the דרוש פשט, whereas the warp threads of Halacha in the Talmud – which employ the רמז סוד. Rabbinic middot include the 7 middot masoret of Hillel, the 10 middot masoret of Akiva, the 13 middot masoret of Yishmael and the 32 middot masoret of Yose HaGalili.

    Masechta Shabbat links lighting the lights of Hanukkah with the shabbat candle lighting. Shabbat absolutely forbids doing acts of מלאכה, because this wisdom – defined through the 39 skills required to build the Mishkan – serves as the צד משוטפ of all time-oriented “wisdom” commandments. This latter type of Av Torah commandment differs from secondary תולדות commandments – the latter types do not require k’vanna whereas the former types do require k’vanna.

    The Bavli common law commentary to the common law Mishna clearly a g’lut document – Judea no longer existed any more than post the Jewish victory in 1948 Palestine existed as a League of Nations mandate territory given to the British based upon the Balfour Declaration which the 1939 White Paper negated. Josephus wrote that prior to Hasmonean rule that the P’rushim joined together with the Maccabee revolt against the Syrian Greek empire. The ברכת המזון refers to this kingdom as רשעים because it attempted to cause Israel to forget the Torah. Which Torah does that blessing refer to? The Oral Torah.

    The Tzeddukim did not limit their assimilation of Greek culture and customs to wanting to turn Jerusalem into a Greek polis City State. They embraced ancient Greek philosophy as well! The defining quality of Greek logic schools – static deductive syllogism bridge-making reasoning – which define both Plato and Aristotle logic. Therefore when lighting the lights of Hanukkah, Jews dedicate only to interpret the K’vanna of Torah commandments (time-oriented) through Oral Torah פרדס inductive logic – idea; to compare Gemara Case/Din halachic precedent to interpret different facets of the language of a specific Mishna.

    The Seleucid Greeks together with their assimilated lap dogs – the Tzeddukim priests – attempted to erase, for example the court witness based New Moon calendar laws. They, like so many other ערב רב declared themselves “real Xtian believers” while all other Xtian damned to Hell to worship Satan! Everybody knows that some 1900 years after the revelation of the Torah that the Jews perverted their Torah and replaced Yitzak for Yishmael! Hence the koran sold this “bridge” to Arab and Muslim believers in the heart of the Arabian desert! The Bavli represents the ultimate triumph of the Perushim—surviving without Shlomo’s or Herod Temple that worships God and ignores the burdens of judicial justice among and between the Jewish people – dependent upon Tribal Yovel and brit melah לשמה which remembers the oath sworn to the Avot! The Word of God vs word of Man psychotic insanity directly compares to the worship of wood and stone massive cathedrals. As if Moshe Rabbeinu took Israel out of Egyptian slavery bondage to build a bankrupt series of Temples as do the Goyim worship there Gods throughout the Ages! צדק צדק תרדוף defines Torah אמונה belief in this or that or some other God(s) defines the Torah curse of assimilated avoda zarah!

    The P’rushim passed the Oral Torah masoret over to the rabbis. This Oral Torah chain of masoret goes straight back to Moshe Rabbeinu. Cyrus the Great whom the prophet Isaiah called “Moshiach” – a great disappointment. While he paid for the construction of a Temple in Jerusalem, his “k’vanna” not to restore “liberty in the land to the 12 Tribes of Israel” but rather specifically loyalty of the Jews; based upon the gaping holes which the Assyrian and Babylonian kings made their kingdoms vulnerable to foreign invasions. Cyrus built a Temple and used the Tzeddukim has his lap dogs to maintain the steady transfer of wealth back to his kingdom in Persia. Herein defines the classic banana republic which enriches 2% of the populations and therein plunders that land of its wealth and resources!

    Oral Torah guiding interpretation and courts, versus becoming a frozen text interpreted only through external/foreign rationalities. That latter bible and koran thumping believers collapse their Old Testament as either replaced by the ‘new covenant’ or corrupted by Jews. Goyim worship their Gods by building grand Cathedrals and block headed domed Mosques. Goyim pervert ancient Jewish “history” as their chief means to control a different narrative/God; Universal monotheism replaces the tribal god of Sinai. Belief in their Universal God defines faith rather than the pursuit of righteous justice among the 12 tribes of Israel. Goyim forever have attempted to control Torah identity – through their strict definition of messiah or prophet!

    The דאורייתא מידות – form the revolving wheels of the chariot vision by the prophets. Prophets command mussar which interprets the k’vanna of these middot. The Aggadic weft threads of the Talmud/Midrashim likewise make a drosh back to NaCH kabbalah prophets! The halachic warp threads of the Talmudic “loom” employs מידות דרבנן – primarily the 7, 10, 13 middot of Hillel Akiva and Yishmael. פרדס inductive logic compares a Case/Din to similar Case/Din rulings based upon their shared similarity of middot – either דאורייתא or דרבנן; its this צד משוטף of middot who share the same – so to speak – common denominator – by which Torah sages compare בניני אבות Case\Din studies.

    The צד משוטף of every mitzvah wisdom commandment learns from מעשה בראשית; hence the first blessing of the שחרית ברכות (two before and one after) twice states תמיד מעשה בראשית because the Israel portion, when the Cohonim dedicated the morning קורבן עולה read the Parsha of בראשית to validate that all time-oriented commandments learn from this essential Torah precedent! The Book of בראשית restricts the concept of Torah commandments to time-oriented concepts of faith; starting with the Creation aggadah to fruitful and multiply to brit melah to removal of the gid ha’nasheh. The צד משוטף that permits these “fraction” of Torah commandments to add together — all of them wisdom commandments. Confusing the language of “time” as if it refers to the time of day – a טיפש פשט sophomoric translation error = to those made by the NT and Koran av tuma avoda zarah.

    Ezekiel’s four living creatures, Daniel’s vision of the ram and goat, Zechariah’s menorah and olive trees, Isaiah’s chariot-throne the inner machinery of the chariot that no external rationalist or Hellenist could ever analyze. Av tuma avoda zarah by definition prioritizes belief in God(s) in the Heavens above and life after death. Both Mishna and Gemara independently denounce attempts made by fools and utter idiots wherein they presume than the mind of Man can “know” the Gods! Such people the Mishna states: better they were never born and the Gemara clarifies: train your tongue to say: I do not know. Both this and that stands upon דברים – תורה לא בשמים היא. Oral Torah common law, by aligning middot compares to the two opposing sights of a rifle; this permits a “sniper” to kill a target down range. Oral Torah so to speak plants the mussar of T’NaCH prophets into the hearts of all “downstream” generations of the chosen Cohen people. The burden rest upon the Yatzir Ha-Tov heart to grow this prophetic mussar into crops of justice among and between our people.

    The stop-gap g’lut codes made after the 1st Crusade(s) abomination(s) and during the ghetto gulag, Inquisition war-crimes, to what do they compare today? נטרי קרתא-LIKE religious party kapo Jews who threaten cut an alliance with Arab political parties in the coming elections in order to achieve an Arab majority in the Knesset! To demolish the Zionist dream of self-determination which achieved Israeli Independence. Shatter the status quo law & throw the Jewish state into a Civil War.

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    1. Laura Farhy Avatar
      Laura Farhy

      Thank you so much for sharing this with me. I appreciate it.

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      1. moshe kerr Avatar

        President Donald Trump is backing Israel in the current rupture with the United Kingdom, though his support has been characterized by notable silence rather than active diplomatic intervention. While Secretary of State Marco Rubio stated that the U.S. would “obviously” not join the British sanctions initiative, Trump himself has not publicly objected to London’s punitive measures against West Bank settlements, a silence that has been interpreted by London socialists as a lack of strong support for Israel.  

        Trump’s administration has maintained a distance from the direct confrontation, with Mike Huckabee, the U.S. ambassador to Israel, warning of economic impacts on British businesses, but no direct presidential intervention has been reported to mediate the dispute. Jewish refugee populations repeatedly expelled, dispossessed, confined, or forced to migrate by European authorities. Examples include the expulsion of Jews from England in 1290, France in 1306, and Spain in 1492, followed by pogroms, forced conversions, discriminatory laws, and ultimately the Shoah.

        But forced population transfers of dhimmi Jewish populations likewise in Arab Caliphate lands. The threat of forced conversions forced Jews to flee from Muslim Spain; the Rambam forced to immigrate to Egypt. Ibn Ezra’s son converted to Islam. Another infamous example: the false messiah Sabbatai Zevi too forced to convert to Islam; while his equally notorious false messiah Yaacov Frank converted to Catholicism. In short, Jewish religious autonomy throughout g’lut history – permanently overshadowed by “ethnic cleansing” by both Monotheistic religions.

        Across Europe as Easter approached the blood libel burned across both Catholic and Protestant “ethnic cleansing” expressed through pogroms. Three Centuries of Catholic imposed ghetto gulags differs from Gazan refugees forced to flee to specific locations in Gaza which London now calls “ethnic cleansing and genocide”? The British developed concentration camps during the Boer War.

        IDF compels Gazans to listen to forced sermons in their Mosques, or economic discrimination based upon their religion? Absurd, Gazans worked inside Jewish communities as spies! Hamas knew the defensive strengths and weaknesses of those communities, which it use on Oct 7th to commit “genocide”. More Israelis men, women and children slaughter than sixteen 9/11 attacks used by Cheney/Bush to justify the invasion of Iraq, together with Britain whose slaughter, & ensuing social anarchy and Civil War greatly contributed to the later Arab Spring! Yet Iraq had nothing to do with the 9/11 attack and ‘fears of weapons of mass destruction, comparable to the slander: ”ethnic cleansing and genocide in Gaza!

        The Nazis established their holding ghetto in Poland’s captured Capital based upon Church guilt. Yet in July 2025, the UK government and other “criminal” European partners’ specifically rejected proposals to move Gaza’s population into a so-called “humanitarian city,” stating that permanent forced displacement would violate international humanitarian law. Wars and Treaties define international law not UN Chapter VI or even Chapter VII SC Resolutions. China rejected MacArthur’s attempt to unify Korea based upon the UN Chapter VII Resolution. Post the Vietnam defeat the US Congress passed the War Powers Act which likewise rejects a UN ‘Police Action’ like Korea. Britain and France – both slapped down as “Great Powers” consequent to the 1956 attempt to steal the Suez Canal from Nasser’s Egypt.

        International Law – the law of the open Seas. The UN immediate removal of its ‘Peace-keepers’ which separated Egyptian forces from Israeli forces – the UN violated international law! As such the language “International law” really means attempts by foreign interests to justify their imperialism appetites. The language “ethnic cleansing” – based upon the realities of actual wars throughout history – excludes Gaza whose population today larger than before the Oct 7th Hamas invasion of Israel. UNWRA refugee inheritance status an inverse ‘Genocide’ LIE. Refugees among all other peoples sorted out within a generation. Both Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch both notorious anti-Israel organizations. Their reputation of non-biased compares to the smirk of a whore in church on Sunday!

        Genocide – based upon the establishment of the UN itself – stands upon the Nazi Shoah. To equate the Gaza death toll to genocide, whose overall population 3 years later exceeds the pre Hamas war crime – therefore a bold faced lie similar to the WWI British propaganda which referred to the Germans as “the Huns”. Utterly obtuse to redefine ‘Genocide’ as “intent to destroy the group, in whole or in part.” Since when has any UN Resolution or slander from socialist London proven squat. London the talking puppet of Hamas terrorists! Oct 7th – “unlawful attacks” – not the role of the UN to declare that this conflict preceded Oct 7th – especially after the exceptional risk taken by PM Sharon to unilaterally withdraw Israelis from Gaza in 2005. The Pravda Press and University Campuses lynch mobs guilty of using “ethnic cleansing and genocide” as interchangeable terms! Post Oct 7th has changed everything. Israel now DEMANDS that Arab countries repatriate their “dhimmi Arab refugee populations from Gaza as did Israel the near 1,000,000 Jews expelled from Arab countries starting with Iraq in 1941.

        UN gossip society ‘Genocide Convention’ defines genocide by intent to destroy a group, in whole or in part, combined with specific acts (killing, causing serious harm, etc.). The joke: it ignores the war crimes of the Catholic Church Inquisition and Crusades! The reputation of the ICC in Hague, Netherlands stinks. Israel rejects Europes’ racist “Jewish Problem”, post Shoah no European court merits respect – NEVER AGAIN – t’shuva remembers the disgrace of Par’o courtroom corruption.

        Vichi openly collaborated with the Nazis. Belgium has no shame, its Carnival of Binche or similar folk traditions an abomination! Post war, szmalcownicy Poles mostly escaped justice for their Chamberlain blackguard cowardice & collaboration; the post war catholic 1946 Kielce Pogrom which murdered 42 Jews a bitter memory among Jewish survivors! Better to kill the dirty Jews than let them return and reclaim their properties in Poland! Post Shoah Israel remembers the church post war Rat lines to South America together with the blood libels Goyim who owed money opportunistically employed to killed the Jewish money lenders and therein cancelled all debts owed! Post Shoah Europe proved its reputation as morally dead. Israel rejects any British moral superiority we hold it on par with the Nazi superior race bull shit and Gaza “industrialized genocide” which ignores the current war in the Ukraine and the post Pearl Harbor atomic bombs dropped upon two Japanese cities.

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        Great Apes share a 98.7% genome genetic match with human-beings. By what measurement readily discerns the switch from grasshopper to the cursed and utterly vile locust? Europeans minds have no loyalty to their allies when loyalty – goes out of fashion.

        Houston Stewart Chamberlain: A British-born Germanophile and racial ideologist (1855–1927) whose work The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century advocated for the superiority of the Aryan race and claimed Jewish influence was negative. His theories influenced Adolf Hitler and National Socialist thought, and he viewed the conflict between Aryans and Jews as the basis of European history.

        Neville Chamberlain: The British Prime Minister (1937–1940) pursued a policy of appeasement toward Nazi Germany, which included signing the Munich Agreement (1938) that sacrificed Czechoslovakia. He also expressed antisemitic attitudes in private letters and his government introduced the White Paper (1939) which denied Jews unrestricted entry to Mandatory Palestine which

        Britain needed acetone as a solvent to manufacture cordite, a smokeless gunpowder used in its munitions. Political Zionist, Chaim Weizmann developed a bacterial fermentation method that produced acetone from starch; his contribution helped solve a serious acetone shortage during WWI. How did the British government award Weizmann’s contribution to the war effort to defeat the “ethnic cleansing” “Germanic Huns”? The British government’s most famous political concession to Herzl’s Political Zionism vision; David Lloyd George’s government on November 2, 1917, became the great power “partner” which Herzl’s “The Jewish State” required in order for Jews to achieve permanent equal rights to achieve self-determination within the borders of their own homeland.

        Later revisionist history sources such as the corrupt Wikipedia whose story line can change at the whip of a pen, claim that the Balfour Declaration reflected some undefined and never proven temporary “strategic and political calculations”. Hence the Balfour Declaration stands as the opposite – so to speak – bookend as the Chamberlain White Paper. The White Paper declared where permanently decreed minority Jewish populations could and could not live within the promised lands of an Arab Palestinian state within 10 years after the war. The UN SC later passed 2334 whose language likewise declares “as the New UN International Law”, the bogus declaration where Israelis can live and operate businesses like as the current Socialist Government boycotts Israeli private industry and housing within the Capital of Jerusalem and Judea/Samaria as if dirty Jews Europeans possess the God Given power of kings to establish Ghetto-gulags like as did the Popes of Rome!

        Based upon the fact, that all Arab Israeli wars fought over Arab rejection of Jewish self determination as defined through the Balfour Declaration, the White Paper coupled with the British wartime policy and post war policy of restricting Jewish escape to the mandate territories, later revisionist history which declares a Arab/Jewish sharing of authority amounts to a straight up propaganda lie on par with the current “ethnic cleansing” and “genocide” slander in post Oct7th Gaza. Britain carpet bombed German cities and civilian populations, the example of Dresden which had no strategic value prove this condemnation of hypocrisy.

        Hamas initiated the Oct7th invasion. It rejects the Oslo Accords wherein PM Sharon made a unilateral withdraw from Gaza. It openly initiated conflicts with Israel once it won the general election and cast the PA out of Gaza. The propaganda lie that “debates” in Oxford the so-called “proposition” – Israel never sought peace with Arabs another bald faced lie. The Wikipedia revisionist history which declares Hamas rejected “the Quartets’ conditions of nonviolence, recognition of Israel, and acceptance of prior agreements” utter narishkeit. The Olso Accords negotiated outside the UN. Post the Nakba Allah defeat in another Arab war to exterminate the Jews, proven by the massacre of Oct7th 2023, the UN has no seat in the Board of Peace as also excluded Britain and France and Russia.

        Claims made by SA of ‘genocide’ rich! SA sits at the tip of Africa! Its black Apartheid reputation a ‘Turd Reich’ of political opportunism on par with Arafat’s Palestinians really the descendants of Greek Boat People later called Philistines. Yishmael in general and Arabs in particular do not originate from Europe any more than Palestine an Arab name or the ICC has jurisdiction of the Palestinian State in Gaza! The UN has a long revisionist history of anti-Israel block-headed voting. UN GA 3379 an infamous disgrace which the current British Green Party has embraced as their flag in their homosexual relationship with the current Socialist government sitting in London.

        ‘Ethnic Cleansing’ and ‘genocide’, an emotion arousing slander on par with the blood libel slanders which resulted in Jewish communities destroyed! Attempts to pigion hole history of nations into some BC/AC bible narishkeit an utter abomination. International Law does not begin and end with the establishment of the UN. Traditional diplomatic historians argue that the Balfour Declaration represents a formal recognition of the historic, indigenous rights of the Jewish people to national self-determination in their ancestral homeland, fulfilling a profound moral and political commitment.

        The Oct7th War initiated by the Hamas/UNWRA alliance which invaded Israel, a war in self-defense. Attempts by hostile states such as within the gossip society represented by the UN nothing short of a denial of Israel’s rights to self-defense. The British invasion of Saddam’s Iraq in conjunction with the Neo-Con Chaney\Bush lies concerning WMD when Iraq connection with 9/11 prove that nations who go to war – they and they alone determine their self-defense strategies – especially after Bush campaigned on a commitment of “No Nation Building”. The October 7, 2023 assault—rests on core principles of national sovereignty and international law.

        The historical pattern wherein European ape-like governments minimize Zionist leadership(s) repeated acceptance to compromise proposals for partition and peace—starting with the 1937 Peel Commission, the 1947 UN Partition Plan, post-1967 land-for-peace frameworks, and the 2000 Camp David/2008 Olmert offers—while Arab leadership systematically rejected them, preferring absolute denial of Jewish sovereignty over compromise – the Jewish people remember and fundamentally refuse to forget.

        Revisionist history compares to Holocaust Denial wherein European project their guilt by calling Israel an Nazi State. Palestine ceased to exist in 1948. European attempts to restore the Roman decree of Syria-Palestine post the Bar Kochba defeat amount to European imperialism and attempts to dominate the balance of power which the Nakba Allah Oct 7th War Hamas defeat has radically changes with both the UN and Britain and France excluded from the Trump Gaza peace. Breaking News … Britain and France ceased being ‘great powers’ after they ran away from the Suez attempt in ’56.

        Europe has no shame nor loyalty when viewed under the lenses of complex geopolitical conflicts wherein European leaders make appeals to domestic mobs, such as the Green Party in England who wave the flag of ‘Zionism is Racism’. The European grasshopper/locust “genetic” mental insanity – whenever they throw an ally under the bus they flatten multi-dimensional realities into two dimensional box declarations of condemnations which arouses the mobs into hysteria – like as seen in Universities across Europe and the US – which has disgraced their good name reputations as places of objective ‘Higher Learning’.

        Actual human history simply not a record of times, places, and events. For example: Who killed President Kennedy? Was 9/11 a False Flag attack to invade Iraq and dominate the balance of power in the Middle East which prioritized the domination “New World Order” of the Western democracies over the break up of the USSR?

        The ruse wherein Arabs rejected the 1947 UN Partition Plan which granted 55% of the land to the Jewish State ignore the fact that the Palestine mandate originally awarded to Britain included Trans-Jordan which reflects multiple Byzantine designations of post Bar Kochba Roman Syria-Palestine, akin to the British two state solution which exploded in multiple Indian “civil wars” with Pakistan! Together with the post WWII division of Korea and Vietnam and the “genocide” of Algerians by France.

        Great power politics has never attempted to establish a Independent Kurdistan post WWI despite the collapse of the Ottoman empire and the removal of the Turkish Capital from Istanbul! Had Russia not collapsed, replace by Bolshevik revolutionaries,  cold, calculated realpolitik would have awarded a restored Constantinople to the Czar of Russia.

        The disgraced UN Chairman’s attempt to declare the existence of “Two national movements claiming the same land”, this revisionist history ignores the 1964 PLO Charter which only referred to ’48 Israel as “Occupied Territory”. And the cold hard fact that never in all recorded human history has their ever existed an Arab Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its Capital and having an Independent national currency – as do all nation states.

        This underscores the retroactive UN fabrication of “West Bank” nonsense which hides Judea/Samaria. Throughout the Ottoman period and the British Mandate, the region was officially and commonly referred to in administrative, legal, and biblical contexts as Judea and Samaria. Stripping the territory of its thousands of years of recorded Jewish history and connection, international bodies and opponents of Israel could more easily frame the area as “foreign” or “occupied” land belonging exclusively to another sovereign entity, rather than the heartland of ancestral Jewish heritage.

        Furthermore the revisionist history “prohibition of acquiring territory by war”, ignores the forced mass population transfers of Germans from Prussia and the division of Prussia between Poland and Russia. The choice of words in international diplomacy – never neutral; it actively shapes legal claims, historical memory, and the political reality on the ground. Post War Germany lost 25% of its land. History simply not a moral scoreboard or tribal contest; but rather a record of choices, alliances, and consequences that evolve with evidence, not ideology.

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    Dean Brunson

    It is just a matter of numbers. Is there 1 or are there 2? Is there just 1 life or are there 2 lives? Is there just 1 natural universe or is there an additional supernatural realm called heaven? All religions depend on belief that a supernatural realm exists where immaterial entities abound and magic supersedes the laws of nature. All religions are powered by rejection of scientific knowledge and superstition.
    Heaven only exists between human ears!

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